13:51 <@MiKylie> :( 13:51 <@MiKylie> i'm back... 13:52 <@MiKylie> i feel like a piece of shit right now 13:52 <@MiKylie> i was crying whole way back on the plane 13:52 <@MiKylie> calmed down on the way home, parents are out shopping, and i'm crying again now 13:52 <@MiKylie> dunno, i wanna smash my head against the wall 13:52 <@MiKylie> :( 13:53 <@MiKylie> gosh, can't see what i write, have tears in eyes 20:34 <@MiKylie> well, i'm cooler now 20:34 <@MiKylie> i've analyzed my thoughts 20:35 <@MiKylie> and i came to a conclusion. i feel some kind of "a wasted show" 20:35 <@MiKylie> that is, show itself was really good 20:35 <@MiKylie> but i'm somehow not living it. i feel like it didn't happen 20:36 <@MiKylie> I feel really gross 20:37 <@MiKylie> I wish I could do some stuff different tho 20:39 <@MiKylie> bleh, when I try to recall some concert moments/songs, I still have tears in my eyes 20:40 <@Jacky153> hmm thought you would like it, it seems it isnt that bad like the homecomming show 20:41 <@MiKylie> show - Kylie - itself was really good. I just didn't enjoy it as fully as I wish I had 20:41 <@MiKylie> all that temperature down there, and humidity 20:41 <@MiKylie> and that density of ppl. like you can't even move 5cm in any direction 20:42 <@MiKylie> I kinda wish they did seated floor now 20:43 <@MiKylie> spending over 7 hours standing still was real pain 20:45 <@MiKylie> maybe I had too big expectations 20:49 <@MiKylie> I think sum of all "physical" problems, kinda killed the fun, or at least some part of that.. and the thought, that I won't see Kylie on tour anywhere soon, is prolly making me cry 20:50 <@MiKylie> and on top of that, I sucked badly in meeting jeez0r. i'm a real piece of shit 20:51 <@mctronken> come on Miki, never say that, & never in public 20:52 <@MiKylie> i did everything wrong. my view on the show right now is "I wish I..." :/ 20:54 <@mctronken> i went to a shaki concert, and it was raining too, and i was too far to see anything 20:56 <@MiKylie> see, it's not a problem of money or time. it's a problem of wasted *chance* right now 20:56 <@mctronken> at least you saw her 20:57 <@mctronken> i hadn't any chance yet 21:01 <@MiKylie> you should, she's worth everything. just make sure you get more of the concert than I did 21:02 <@Jacky153> i've only seen fever 21:02 <@MiKylie> I would give anything to see fever live 21:02 <@MiKylie> i'm convinced it's the best show ever 21:02 <@MiKylie> *EVER* 21:03 <@Jacky153> even my coworker startet to like her after that show 21:03 <@Jacky153> lol 21:03 <@mctronken> :) 21:04 <@MiKylie> I mean, the whole surrounding and situation, was so.. weird, I hardly remember Kylie and the show :( 21:04 <@MiKylie> also, what really frustrated me 21:04 <@MiKylie> a lot of songs that I didn't know lyrics to 21:05 <@MiKylie> all that unreleased Xes, all that weird covers 21:05 <@MiKylie> i mean, "Hello, I want Kylie classics, that we all know by heart" 21:05 <@MiKylie> as, being that close, I really barely hear Kylie, music (and bass) is too loud 21:06 <@MiKylie> it's no problem with all, known before, songs. I hear her in my mind 21:07 <@MiKylie> but i couldn't say I enjoyd that act with 3 out of 4 songs, that I never heard before 21:09 <@MiKylie> well, there's no such act I see now.. that just shows how badly I remember the show 21:11 <@MiKylie> on top of that, they gay audience... 21:12 <@MiKylie> i don't have anything against gays, really 21:12 <@MiKylie> but i felt like under siege 21:12 <@MiKylie> guys right behind me were regularly kissing each other 21:12 <@MiKylie> and one of them was rubbing his ass against my :X 21:12 <@MiKylie> to say nothing about their disgusting screams 21:13 <@MiKylie> that was just too much 21:14 <@MiKylie> on good side, my idea of taking an analogue camera with iso 1600 film was good (so far, will know after I develop them) 21:15 <@MiKylie> was cool to see dudes around with compact cameras trying to do anything with their sucky sensitivity, cameras were giving them like 1/10s exposure, all blured 21:15 <@MiKylie> and my was that good, that it even didn't want to flash (being set to auto) 21:15 <@MiKylie> ok, then i feel pure pwnage over that gays in white shirts :P 21:15 <@MiKylie> *felt 21:16 <@jeez0r> hry MiKey 21:16 <@jeez0r> hey* 21:16 <@jeez0r> i had no idea it was that stressfull at the front there 21:17 <@MiKylie> it was purely insane 21:17 <@jeez0r> on top of that it had an hour's delay 21:17 <@MiKylie> I wish it could've been like Manchester year ago.. :( 21:17 <@MiKylie> yeh, just an extra 70 minutes in that comfort situation 21:18 <@MiKylie> I reckon it started 21:40 21:18 <@jeez0r> the problem probably was the lacking of a catwalk 21:18 <@MiKylie> I don't really wanna complain on the show itself 21:18 <@jeez0r> i think that puts more stress on a crowd 21:18 <@MiKylie> I'm sure it was good 21:18 <@MiKylie> I just had problems enjoying it fully 21:19 <@jeez0r> even without a catwalk , the barriers should be setup witth a centre breakup 21:19 <@MiKylie> what's a centre breakup? 21:19 <@jeez0r> there's a technique they use in setup that takes pressure off 21:20 <@jeez0r> an H shaped setup 21:20 <@jeez0r> i'll paint it 21:20 <@MiKylie> umm kay 21:20 <@MiKylie> i also sucked in meeting you 21:20 <@MiKylie> really, I fell very stupid 21:21 <@MiKylie> dunno what to say 21:22 <@jeez0r> don't worry , you were stressed out 21:23 <@MiKylie> i really tried to enjoy the show :/ 21:23 < lucklyboy> go again to a cocert and you will see with diffrent eyes 21:23 <@jeez0r> http://users.telenet.be/jeeznet/untitled3.bmp 21:23 <@jeez0r> look on that 21:23 <@jeez0r> blue = stage 21:24 <@jeez0r> red = crowd 21:24 <@MiKylie> ah 21:24 <@jeez0r> that's how they setup to prevent an audience from pushing to the front 21:24 <@jeez0r> used at all the big festivals 21:24 <@MiKylie> looks nice 21:25 <@jeez0r> i saw 3 people uncontious being run out the venue cos they had collapsed 21:25 <@MiKylie> I mean... if only it had air conditioning 21:25 <@MiKylie> pfff, i've seen just 2 21:25 <@jeez0r> 4 security right in front of me 21:25 <@MiKylie> or, if only it was 30% more space 21:26 <@MiKylie> or if only it wasn't 7+ hours standing still 21:26 <@jeez0r> space is the first problem 21:26 <@MiKylie> just the sum of all problems killed my fun 21:26 <@jeez0r> that audience setup technique gained popularity after the roskilde disaster 21:27 <@jeez0r> if a stage has a catwalk then it's kinda built in safety 21:29 <@MiKylie> btw, wish you seen the moment when they opened the venue 21:29 <@MiKylie> that was real fight 21:29 <@MiKylie> and then run run run 21:29 <@jeez0r> i was there 21:29 <@MiKylie> i've overtaken 4 ppl on the length of sportpaleis 21:30 <@MiKylie> (the floor, that is) 21:30 <@jeez0r> i didn't try to get to you out there 21:30 <@jeez0r> cos that wouldn't have worked anyway 21:30 <@MiKylie> crowd was pretty stiff and dense 21:30 <@MiKylie> *stif 21:30 <@MiKylie> err 21:31 <@MiKylie> were I on tv? 21:31 <@MiKylie> een or vtm 21:32 <@jeez0r> i'm not sure 21:32 <@MiKylie> i've smiled to camera 21:32 <@jeez0r> where exactly were you standing outside ? 21:32 <@MiKylie> they were giving some black leaflets 21:32 <@MiKylie> behind a gay with big earrings, before a gay in white tshirt 21:32 <@MiKylie> :P 21:32 <@jeez0r> lol 21:32 <@MiKylie> it was *that* bad for me 21:32 <@jeez0r> i was next to a pink gay 21:32 <@MiKylie> i felt embarased 21:32 <@MiKylie> ... 21:32 < lucklyboy> (( £åügHîñg Øüt £öüÐ )) miky there cut you out for sure 21:33 <@jeez0r> i recorded it all 21:33 <@MiKylie> rls? 21:33 <@jeez0r> i'll pause the shots outside 21:33 <@MiKylie> ok 21:33 <@MiKylie> when you look from the outside, to the entrance 21:33 <@MiKylie> i was on the right side 21:33 <@MiKylie> around 2nd row of barriers 21:34 <@MiKylie> right side, but still at the barriers parallel to the venue 21:34 <@MiKylie> not that angled 21:34 <@MiKylie> i gotta say, my 183cm pays back 21:35 <@MiKylie> i felt sorry for a sexy (slightly plum) blonde .be girl that was like 160cm 21:35 <@ass[AwaY]> slightly plum? lol 21:35 <@ass[AwaY]> is plum like fat 21:36 <@MiKylie> yeh, she wasn't fat 21:36 <@MiKylie> she just had some body 21:36 * lucklyboy slaps miky 21:37 <@MiKylie> no, i wasn't blocking her view 21:37 <@MiKylie> I've seen her only before the venue 21:37 < lucklyboy> Ahhh 21:38 <@MiKylie> actually, i've seen one (also sexy) girl, I think i might've seen in manchester 21:40 <@MiKylie> and, apparently, a dude that might've been there too 21:40 <@MiKylie> Olli should know him 21:44 <@MiKylie> I'm gonna throw my 39 photos to fotolab tomorrow I think 21:45 < Quadz0r> the crazy dutch fan was at antwerp btw 21:45 < Quadz0r> they interviewed her 21:45 < Quadz0r> miss tattoo 21:46 <@MiKylie> I'd like too hook up with some girls there 21:46 <@MiKylie> but everything went just wrong 21:46 <@Quadz0r> next time maybe consider a good seating ticket 21:47 <@Quadz0r> she said she'll be back 21:47 <@Quadz0r> ;) 21:47 <@MiKylie> i should've went to Manchester 21:47 <@MiKylie> they have seated floor there 21:47 <@MiKylie> :/ 21:48 <@MiKylie> yeh, but "be back" can be anywhere between 1.5 and 2 years from now 21:48 <@MiKylie> more like 2 by my wild guess 21:48 <@MiKylie> and that's like far reality now 21:49 <@MiKylie> ok. I stop complaining. I don't wanna kill all your moods 21:49 <@Quadz0r> don't worry about me 21:49 <@MiKylie> really, show was good, very good prolly, i just couldn't enjoy it as I thought I will 21:50 <@Quadz0r> i found it hard to handle , x is not that accessable i feel 21:50 <@Quadz0r> the stars n stripes thing was pretty nuts , i liked that 21:50 <@MiKylie> confetti you mean? 21:50 <@MiKylie> and "the rain" ? 21:51 <@Quadz0r> no 21:51 <@Quadz0r> the crazy screens when they had the cheerleader thing on 21:51 <@MiKylie> oh 21:53 <@MiKylie> that unknown-to-me songs killed it totally for me, I think :( 21:53 <@MiKylie> felt stupid when the crowd knew it, and me not 21:53 <@MiKylie> there goes my musical illiteracy 21:53 <@jeez0r> yeh they even did non x songs we didn't know 21:54 <@MiKylie> :/ 21:55 <@Jacky153> first song were the sound is ok 21:57 <@MiKylie> I was in bad shape too, I've admit recognising Speakerphone or Spinning Around, like 30-40 seconds into the song 21:57 <@MiKylie> shame on me 21:57 <@MiKylie> *I have to admit 21:58 <@jeez0r> i don't think you're on camera 21:58 <@MiKylie> :( 21:59 <@Jacky153> come on miky a little smile 21:59 <@Jacky153> ;) 21:59 <@MiKylie> it was really not my day 21:59 <@MiKylie> and i'm 1 week lag on files 22:00 <@jeez0r> at one point it was like watching the sydney dvd 22:00 <@Jacky153> it'll be again tomorrow 22:00 <@MiKylie> loveboat :P 22:00 < bwstealer> and if hes on the pic you only see a body no face cos its over the normal pic :P 22:00 <@jeez0r> when they brought the sailors on 22:00 <@MiKylie> yeh 22:00 <@MiKylie> tomorrow back to ugly reality 22:01 <@MiKylie> i think the 6 days wait was killing me too 22:01 <@jeez0r> at least you saw a part of flanders :-) 22:01 <@MiKylie> i hardly slept night before the show, had night daydreams of Kylie 22:02 <@MiKylie> Manchester was "faster". one day evening i'm on the plane, next time same time, already into the show 22:02 <@MiKylie> no killer waiting 22:02 <@MiKylie> yep, flanders nice 22:02 <@jeez0r> http://img238.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ba1c063d2f6dae21a89feefbx4.jpg 22:03 <@jeez0r> remember this girl on the late sayhey ? 22:03 <@MiKylie> yes, you showed me her pics from tatoo lab 22:03 <@jeez0r> oh sayhey not dead 22:03 < bwstealer> crazy girl 22:04 <@MiKylie> nitey 22:04 <@jeez0r> http://users.skynet.be/melaniec/DSC06885.jpg 22:04 <@jeez0r> fucking hell 22:05 <@jeez0r> sharp pic 22:05 <@Jacky153> http://www.zshare.net/video/11732415c8d543f3/ 22:05 <@Jacky153> leech that miky 22:08 <@Jacky153> like the pics 22:08 <@Jacky153> just 2 hearts song is crap 22:08 <@Jacky153> lol 22:08 <@Jacky153> i really hate that song 22:16 <@_dexter_> you shouldve gone seeing spicegirls :P 22:38 <@Jacky153> miky did you leech the zshare file? 22:38 <@Jacky153> dooooh 22:38 <@MiKylie> yep 22:39 <@MiKylie> paris3.avi 22:39 <@MiKylie> they were showing that on the screen in the arena 22:39 <@Jacky153> ;) 22:39 <@MiKylie> i know that, i spent there a while :P 22:39 <@Jacky153> lol 22:39 <@MiKylie> and i know "boom boom, showtime. the new fragrance by Kylie Minogue" 22:39 <@MiKylie> and what's really sad 22:39 <@Jacky153> didn know its from the show 22:40 <@MiKylie> when I came back to hotel, and lied down 22:40 <@MiKylie> the song that I heard in my head was.... Don't Stop The Music :X 22:40 <@MiKylie> really frustrating 22:46 <@MiKylie> btw. vlaams is very nice. it's like german, with some english words, and "het" instead of "the" 23:09 <@MiKylie> oh btw 23:10 <@MiKylie> there even were dudes, dressed like girls 23:10 <@MiKylie> that was trully disgusting 23:10 <@Basket> lol 23:11 <@Basket> where u been? 23:11 <@MiKylie> in .be 23:11 <@Basket> aint they belgium gays then? 23:11 <@MiKylie> that was close to .nl border 23:11 <@MiKylie> so i can only blame .nl 23:11 <@MiKylie> belgians are cooler 23:12 <@Basket> so if im close to germany all i see is german people .. even though im in .nl ? 23:12 <@Basket> weird 23:12 <@jeez0r> antwerp is like the dutch annexed city 23:12 <@MiKylie> i think it's only .nl that openly supports gays acts 23:12 <@jeez0r> swarmed with dutch 23:13 <@MiKylie> that guys were doing things that even made me disgusted 23:13 <@MiKylie> *me* 23:13 <@Basket> antwerp .. been there twice i think 23:13 <@Basket> at Cafe D'anvers 23:13 <@MiKylie> aww 23:13 <@Basket> what? 23:13 <@jeez0r> oh trendsetter huh 23:13 <@MiKylie> guys kissing guys, right behind of me 23:14 <@MiKylie> *guy kissing guy 23:14 <@MiKylie> french kissing, for a record 23:14 <@jeez0r> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10756864@N08/sets/72157604942493387/show/ 23:14 <@jeez0r> my brother's pics MiKey 23:15 <@MiKylie> and gay behind me rubbing his ass against my ass :X 23:15 <@jeez0r> was he not watching kylie then ? 23:15 <@MiKylie> i've received such amount of gayness, that it was hard even for me 23:15 <@MiKylie> jeez: indeed 23:15 <@MiKylie> he was lapdancing his boyfriend 23:15 <@jeez0r> i had that in paris in 2005 23:16 <@MiKylie> and I thought i'm die-hard, and nothing can shock me 23:16 <@Basket> is it classic songs? or from the new cd? 23:18 <@jeez0r> too much X for non fans i'm sure 15:09 hi Jacky. I'm back and unpacked by now. I'm really happy to be back home, but at the same time, I wish I were not here, but somewhere where Kylie tours. I feel very weird now. I'll be up for chat in the evening I think. I'm crying and I really dunno what's up now. 15:14 awa dear 15:14 wb 15:14 * Jacky153 hugs miky 15:14 may drive to berlin and go to the concert there too 20:23 you feel a bit better? 20:36 dank, will check out files soon 20:36 i feel more sleepy actually 20:36 kinda better... i see i can't change anything from past 20:36 yeah think so 20:36 after all tha crying 20:36 know that 20:37 :( 22:00 well, the waiting part always sucks 22:01 but so far i always enjoyed the standing concerts more than seats only 22:02 but when i read some opinions on sayhey i felt sorry for you 22:02 the technical problems, several axed songs and they said she wasn't very chatty 22:02 :( 22:02 the paris videos looked like big fun though 22:02 i even didn't know sayhey is around 22:03 I wish it could've been like Manchester 22:03 were you close to the stage? 22:04 yes, i was 2nd row. could touch the barrier, but not bend over on it 22:05 how is the camera policy? i saw quite a lot of displays in the crowd 22:06 no problems with camera at all 22:07 cool 22:07 anyway. as I said. I was very very excited before the show, just the whole show, sum of all minor problems, killed my fun 22:07 and did they check at the entrance? 22:07 and I was left let down 22:07 prolly had too big expectations 22:08 i'm not as excited as *after* Manchester 22:08 no 22:08 they didn't check anything 22:08 how about water bottles? 22:08 the crows was running over ppl 22:08 np 22:08 can bring anything 22:08 cool 22:08 lol 22:08 not cool 22:08 it was die-hard 22:08 ppl were collapsing 22:08 hope the germans are as easy going as the others 22:08 looked like some demonstration or something 22:09 it was hard fight to be quick at the barriers 22:09 i did a sprint through sportpaleis floor, overtaken 4 ppl 22:09 i think one kylie show is some kind of overload for all senses 22:10 I just wish I enjoyed it more as a whole 22:10 I have a feeling of a wasted *chance* 22:10 if you know you'll have the chance to see her again you can be more relaxed 22:10 next 1.5-2 years wait :( 22:10 you didn't make a banner? 22:10 and I was soo waiting for this tour 22:10 no 22:11 and I didn't meet jeez0r 22:11 I was just one piece of crap 22:11 lol, you're too hard ony yourself 22:11 did you take any good photos? 22:12 really, that show is like one huge "I wish I ..." thinking 22:12 don't ask :X 22:12 lol 22:12 i promise to send you if i find any good tho 22:12 no problem 22:12 I even didn't get the tourbook 22:12 I've lost my mind after the show 22:13 i think the first shows of a tour a not even closely as good as the last dates 22:13 I blindly headed to the metro station, hiding tears 22:13 *are 22:13 I did 0 cold-minded thiking there 22:13 tomorrow stuttgart? 22:13 hopefully i won't be disappointed 22:14 yep, and frankfurt on saturday 22:14 i wish you all best, really, trully 22:14 enjoy it all the way 22:14 it was a great show 22:14 i just couldn't find my way 22:14 but i definately want to see her doing the one 22:14 LAFS was good 22:15 it's one of few things i kinda remember 22:15 also 22:15 it ended like 0:40 22:15 i think it was too late for me, after that long day 22:18 yeah, i think so 22:19 when did you arrive at the arena? 22:19 5pm 22:19 and that was already too late 22:19 it was around 100 ppl in front of that 22:20 I gained some positions through my run inside of that, that is. ppl who were around me before the arena, ended up 5-6 rows behind me in the venue 22:20 yeah, i could have told you that 22:20 so I did that part rather good 22:20 I'm affraid ppl queued there since 12 22:21 when i was first row at the showgirl i started queing about 3:30 pm 22:21 showgirl had standing? 22:22 yep, outside of the uk 22:22 oh 22:23 i think i was just too excited 22:24 like, i was "hearing" rippin' up the disco, all that days before the show 22:24 and i get very little sleep the night before 22:24 had night daydreams that night, about the show and Kylie 22:24 that's very bad for any reasonable behaviour 22:25 don't think that it's different for me 22:26 i won't be able to eat the next two days because of my excitement 22:26 welcome to the club then ;-) 22:27 i'll let you know a little secret, my worst nightmare was being affraid of taking piss 22:27 i mean, after being inside 22:27 you can actually forget about going to toilet 22:27 i dunno how i managed to drink 1l of water, and not go to WC in 8 hours 22:27 hehe, i know 22:28 i know it sounds stupid 22:28 but it was really bugging me, that i will "weak out" after few hours 22:28 and lose my place 22:29 at the showgirl concerts we were given coloured bands for our arms in the front area of the stage so we could re-enter this area 22:29 ohh 22:29 it still didn't guarantee your front spot though 22:29 so you had to find a kind neighbour to keep you spot safe 22:30 right. here all you had "guaranteed" was stehlplatz 22:30 getting in & out was almost impossible 22:30 with all that density 22:57 <@MiKylie> In Manchester it was all different. I remeber me, and everybody, screaming that loud, that I've actually felt my ears "oversteer" while I was shouting. Also, I was just dead tired from clapping my hands during the show, and jumpin'. While in Antwerp, I was dead tired from standing still, and there were really long moments, when I had no idea what to do with hands. It was just not moving. 22:58 <@MiKylie> Oh well, you can't have time of your life for 2 times in a life. And I deffo had one in Manchester. 23:29 <@MiKylie> I liked how they played dancefloor few times before the show btw 23:31 <@MiKylie> glad she did IYE at least 23:32 <@MiKylie> in the other news 23:32 <@MiKylie> funky, i was surrounded by mostly old dudes 23:32 <@MiKylie> only one gay behind be, the one from rubbing ass was young 23:32 <@MiKylie> young = 20s 23:33 <@MiKylie> and around, dad = my left, you can imagine the age 23:33 <@MiKylie> next guy, looking 40 23:33 <@MiKylie> dude in front of me, looking 50, from Antwerp 23:33 <@MiKylie> dude right from me, older from my dad even 23:33 <@MiKylie> :X 23:34 <@MiKylie> and you'd think that kids go to Kylie shows... 23:37 <@Quadz0r> behind me a couple of people left 23:38 <@MiKylie> yep 23:38 <@MiKylie> i've seen tier running away before encore 23:38 <@Quadz0r> and before the encore the floor had lost 1000 people 23:38 <@MiKylie> well, i couldn't see floor losing ppl, from my position 23:38 <@Quadz0r> it was crazy 23:38 <@MiKylie> truth be said, it was a looong wait 23:39 <@Quadz0r> i said to my bro , is getting home on time really worth that ? 23:39 <@MiKylie> how did you got back home btw 23:39 <@Quadz0r> we were parked outside with car All in all, I wish I could witness it again... --MiKylie